{"id":2852,"date":"2013-07-30T08:49:55","date_gmt":"2013-07-30T13:49:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/?p=2852"},"modified":"2013-07-30T08:49:55","modified_gmt":"2013-07-30T13:49:55","slug":"range-report-review-of-the-nikon-p-223-and-other-stuff","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/?p=2852","title":{"rendered":"Range Report: Review of the Nikon P-223 and other stuff"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This past Friday, my friend James took me to a members-only range just north of town. I&#8217;d heard of the club before but never been.<\/p>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t know until the night before that it had 100, 200 and 300 yard berms, with steel gongs at 200 and 300. The last time I was able to shoot at any distance greater than 100 yards was when I was in Basic Training 15 years ago, so I was pretty excited at the prospect.<\/p>\n<p>I had several goals for the day:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Further troubleshoot the accuracy problems I&#8217;ve been having with my M&amp;P15-22.<\/li>\n<li>Sight in the <a href=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/2013\/07\/22\/nikon-p-223-scope-and-burris-pepr-ar-mount\/\">Nikon P-223 I recently purchased<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Experiment with POI\/POA shifts on my Rock River AR that I use the YHM Phantom on occasionally.<\/li>\n<li>Get some trigger time on my M&amp;P9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2860\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2860\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3073.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2860\" alt=\"There's a new-ish Toyota 4Runner up there at the 300\" src=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3073-1024x682.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2860\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">There&#8217;s a new-ish Toyota 4Runner up there at the 300<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>It was a great day. Like 75 Degrees, <i>in July<\/i>, with a slight breeze and clear skies. There were a couple of other groups of shooters, but since we went during the week there was plenty of room. This particular range doesn&#8217;t have target stands; you have to bring your own. Luckily, I brought <a href=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/2011\/09\/21\/weekend-project\/\">the ones oddball and I built a couple of years ago<\/a>. The bright pink posterboard in the middle of the picture above is held up by one of those stands.<\/p>\n<p><em>Note to self: When you bring the target stands, bring a staple gun.<\/em><\/p>\n<h3>Zeroing the Sweet .22 scope on the M&amp;P15-22<\/h3>\n<p>I started off with trying to get the M&amp;P15-22 zeroed. Again. For like the third time. I thought I had written about this before, but I can&#8217;t find any old posts on it so I must&#8217;ve just dreamed that. The short version is that I bought <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000NJUPAS\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000NJUPAS&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=gucaante-20\">this scope<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=gucaante-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000NJUPAS\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B004HIHQLM\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B004HIHQLM&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=gucaante-20\">these rings<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=gucaante-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B004HIHQLM\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> and have been chasing accuracy problems ever since. I&#8217;ve blamed the shooter, the rings, and the ammo, and eliminated all those variables in my testing.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s been maddeningly frustrating to get within two MOA of zero&#8211;with groups of three fitting under a nickel at 50 yards&#8211;only to have the next group be off by 6-8 inches. I <i>finally<\/i> think I may have found the problem. While troubleshooting, James came over to check if my scope (now mounted in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B004S76WTE\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B004S76WTE&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=gucaante-20\">PEPR<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=gucaante-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=B004S76WTE\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important; margin:0px !important;\" \/>) was mounted securely.<\/p>\n<p>And the upper receiver <i>flexed under light pressure<\/i>. The plastic picatinny rail moved left and right a few degrees. That ended the range time with that particular weapon \ud83d\ude00<\/p>\n<p>Apparently I am not the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thehighroad.org\/archive\/index.php\/t-597697.html\">only person<\/a> to experience this. There also seem to be significant variations in POI based on temperature.<\/p>\n<p>So I&#8217;ll be buying a 10\/22 for Appleseed, and a red dot for the M&#038;P15-22<\/p>\n<h3>Sighting in the Nikon P-223<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3070.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3070-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_3070\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-2862\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The ghost image I talked about in my earlier post is still an issue for me. It&#8217;s not insurmountable, but it&#8217;s not going to stop me from looking for an alternative. I sighted in at 50 yards, knowing that an AR zeroed at 50 will be accurate at 200. With that knowledge and Nikon&#8217;s SpotOn iPhone app (that James had previously installed) I was banging the 300 yard gong pretty quickly.<\/p>\n<p>Man, I love steel targets.<\/p>\n<h3>Other Stuff<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3066.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3066-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_3066\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-2863\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>James is going to be a bad influence on me. That&#8217;s a Remington 700 AAC-SD in .308. It&#8217;s basically the exact rifle I&#8217;ve been trying to talk myself into buying since they came out. The good news is that the trigger isn&#8217;t as good as I expected, so I can put that off some more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3071.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3071-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_3071\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-2864\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3072.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/IMG_3072-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_3072\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-2865\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The bad news is that he brought several lowers, each of which had a Geissele SSA-E<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=gucaante-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=B008LY2EXS\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important; margin:0px !important;\" \/>. Now I have to buy one, especially after going from my rifle, to his, then back to mine. You don&#8217;t realize how bad a stock AR trigger is until you do that.<\/p>\n<p>And in other news, you can, in fact, hit steel at 200 yards with a revolver. It took me three tries, and the revolver <a href=\"http:\/\/www.magnumresearch.com\/Firearms\/Magnum-Research-4570-Revolver-10-inch-Barrel.asp\">was in 45-70<\/a>, but I&#8217;ll take it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This past Friday, my friend James took me to a members-only range just north of town. I&#8217;d heard of the club before but never been. I didn&#8217;t know until the night before that it had 100, 200 and 300 yard berms, with steel gongs at 200 and 300. The last time I was able to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2852","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-guns"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2852","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2852"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2852\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2852"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2852"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2852"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}