{"id":2565,"date":"2013-05-16T19:48:53","date_gmt":"2013-05-17T00:48:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/?p=2565"},"modified":"2013-05-16T19:48:53","modified_gmt":"2013-05-17T00:48:53","slug":"gee-this-seems-to-be-a-trend","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/?p=2565","title":{"rendered":"Gee&#8230; this seems to be a trend"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>*<em>This is another one of those posts that I should probably state that this is purely my opinion and it doesn&#8217;t necessarily represent the opinion of WizardPC, who keeps letting me post here for some reason.\u00a0 My information comes solely from the sources that I have linked in this post.\u00a0 If you have not already done so, please follow and read them and come to your own conclusions.<\/em>*<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sure most of you will remember me <a href=\"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/2013\/03\/25\/well-they-got-the-name-right\/\" target=\"_blank\">talking<\/a> about Linoge&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wallsofthecity.net\/2013\/03\/usfa-zip-not-a-review.html\" target=\"_blank\">experiences<\/a> with the US Firearms&#8217; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usfirearms.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">ZiP Gun<\/a> (now with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wallsofthecity.net\/2013\/03\/usfa-zip-a-follow-up.html\" target=\"_blank\">response post<\/a>!).\u00a0 Long story short, Linoge was able to reliably pull the trigger and operate the firing pin while the gun was out of battery.\u00a0 This caused a couple rounds to go off while not in battery (.22 ammo in notorious for not going into battery properly in a semi-auto).\u00a0 The President of the company apparently feels that 1. it&#8217;s impossible for a rimfire to detonate out of battery (evidence to the contrary), and 2. not having the trigger disconnected unless the gun is in battery is not a problem.<\/p>\n<p>Well, shortly after that, the fine folks at guns.com <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guns.com\/review\/2013\/04\/04\/gun-review-zip-22lr\/\" target=\"_blank\">reviewed<\/a> the ZiP gun.\u00a0 While they failed to have the out of battery experience that Linoge had, they too noticed that their firearm had this &#8220;interesting design feature.&#8221;\u00a0 They also had a different malfunction.\u00a0 Their particular T&amp;E item would, randomly, but repeatably, fire 2 rounds per trigger pull!<\/p>\n<p>I have a theory that it may have not gone into burst mode, but rather the trigger actually got pulled twice.\u00a0 I have not handled this gun, but I could see this happening if the trigger reset is short.\u00a0 Given the&#8230; umm&#8230; interesting ergonomics of this weapon, plus the fact that it can be fired before it&#8217;s fully back into battery could mean that a looser trigger pull could essentially bump fire it.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a hair-brain theory, but I&#8217;m trying to give the manufacturer the benefit of the doubt.<\/p>\n<p>I hadn&#8217;t really read or heard anything more about this quirky little gun until today, when I tripped over this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.glocktalk.com\/forums\/showthread.php?t=1487119\" target=\"_blank\">forum post<\/a>.\u00a0 Someone bought a ZiP gun, took it to the range, and discovered that his 10 round 10\/22 mags were so tight a fit that he needed pliers to remove them (the 25 round mags didn&#8217;t work, but that&#8217;s to be expected).\u00a0 He reported multiple double shots, and at least one of them had the second round fire so dramatically out of battery that the case of the .22 did a rather good attempt on disintegrating.<\/p>\n<p>So, it looks like he experienced *both* issues reported by the two previous reviews.\u00a0 I&#8217;d say that this is pretty damning evidence that these things should best left on the shelf.<\/p>\n<p>Please don&#8217;t get me wrong.\u00a0 I admire this company for trying a rather radical new design.\u00a0 I would love to say that I&#8217;m trying to figure out a way to explain to the wife why I need to add it to my collection.\u00a0 Unfortunately, at this point, all signs point to this being a dangerous product.\u00a0 The most alarming thing is that the company that makes it can&#8217;t say that they are not unaware of the issues, and does not seem interested in fixing what is clearly a defective design.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>*This is another one of those posts that I should probably state that this is purely my opinion and it doesn&#8217;t necessarily represent the opinion of WizardPC, who keeps letting me post here for some reason.\u00a0 My information comes solely from the sources that I have linked in this post.\u00a0 If you have not already [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2565","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2565","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2565"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2565\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2565"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2565"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunscarstech.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2565"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}